Lucien Carr & Allen Ginsberg

Allen Ginsberg and Lucien Carr
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Lucien Carr and Allen Ginsberg had an encounter in 1944.

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American Journalist Lucien Carr passed away on 28th Jan 2005 George Washington University Hospital in Washington, DC aged 79. Born on 1st March, 1925 in New York City, NY, USA and educated at Bowdoin College, Brunswick, Maine t, Lucien Carr is most remembered for Key member of the original New York City circle of the Beat Generation in the 1940s. Claim to notoriety: the murder of the English teacher David (Eames) Kammerer.. His zodiac sign is Pisces.

American Activist Allen Ginsberg passed away on 5th Apr 1997 Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA aged 70. Born Irwin Allen Ginsberg on 3rd June, 1926 (Gemini) in Newark, New Jersey, USA and educated at Montclair State College, Allen Ginsberg is most remembered for Beat Generation, epic poem 'Howl'. His zodiac sign is Gemini.

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Dating1944 - 1944
Total 1944 - 1944


It was at Columbia University that Carr befriended Allen Ginsberg in the Union Theological Seminary dormitory on West 122nd Street (an overflow residence for Columbia at the time), when Ginsberg knocked on the door to find out who was playing a recording of a Brahms trio. Soon after, a young woman Carr had befriended, Edie Parker, introduced Carr to her boyfriend, Jack Kerouac, then twenty-two and nearing the end of his short career as a sailor. Carr, in turn, introduced Ginsberg and Kerouac to one another – and both of them to his older friend with more first-hand experience at decadence: William Burroughs. The core of the New York Beat scene had formed, with Carr at the center. As Ginsberg put it, “Lou was the glue.”
Carr, Kerouac, Ginsberg and Burroughs explored New York’s grimier underbelly together.
Ginsberg wrote in his journal at the time: “Know these words, and you speak the Carr language: fruit, phallus, clitoris, cacoethes, feces, foetus, womb, Rimbaud.” It was Carr who first introduced Ginsberg to the poetry and the story of 19th century French poet Arthur Rimbaud. Rimbaud would be a major influence on Ginsberg’s poetry.
Ginsberg was plainly fascinated by Carr, whom he viewed as a self-destructive egotist but also as a possessor of real genius.
Carr asked Ginsberg to remove his name from the dedication at the start of "Howl.” The poet agreed. Carr even became a voice of caution in Ginsberg’s life, warning him to “keep the hustlers and parasites at arm’s length.” For many years, Ginsberg would visit the UPI offices and press Carr to cover the various causes with which Ginsberg had allied himself.

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Name
Lucien Carr
Allen Ginsberg
Lucien Carr
Allen Ginsberg
Age (at start of relationship)
18
17
Zodiac
Pisces
Gemini
Occupation
Journalist
Activist
Hair Color
Blonde
Black
Eye Color
Blue
Brown - Dark
Nationality
American
American

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